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2026/06/26 (金) 16:58:06
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燃料消費量、スロットル関係なしにドカ食い過ぎて草。こんなのバグレベルだよ。謎調整。栄エンジンが巡航よりスロットル上げると燃費そんなに良くないってのは、栄二一以降特に有名だけど。だからって計算したのかってくらいの極端な調整している挙句、スロットル半分でも燃料消費速度高くてほんま草。
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360kgの筈のところ590kg毎時ってなんぞ。こんなに馬力あたりの消費量の高いレシプロエンジンこのゲームに他にないよ。
おとなしくバグレポ出してもろて
出しとくよ。
恐縮なのだけど、https://www.digital.archives.go.jp/img/1725555#1
のこの73ページと同じ数値じゃなくても良いので、燃費に関する本の写メとか貰えたり...というのは資料募集スレ行きよね。こちらから気付いた人にはここに繋げて頂けたら感謝感激ですけども。
incorrect Sakae 21 engine fuel consumption rate.
It is 70% higher in the game, at normal power it is 45% higher.
The current fuel consumption rate is 590~600kg/hour at sea level. This translates to 0.526kg/hp/h when the engine is operating at WEP.
No other real Japanese engines had their fuel consumption rate this high. It's totally unrealistic. Usually, this is about twice as high as the most common ww2 aero engines. The comparable contemporarily engines from the same era sit around 2 third of this engine.
The real engine's fuel consumption rate is 350kg per hour at take-off power (1130hp). Its fuel consumption rate is literally described to be exact 0.31kg/hp/h at 1130hp in the manual, straight up. The "normal" 100% throttle FCR would be 0.3kg/hp/h (1010hp). This, in turn, would yield a flight time of "1 hour 21 minutes" instead of 57 minutes like present in the game. This is based on my assumption that the internal fuel load would be 416kg(from online sources). The fuel consumption rate at the normal power setting is 303kg. The FCR of 420 "Liters" per hour is multiplied by 0.72(92 octane) to get this value. The official wiki states the max fuel weight to be 420kg so the margin of error only favors my theory of this game not reflecting its real life counterpart accurately.
Source (1) : 書-第2057号・A6M3取扱説明書抄録 A6M3 operation manual https://www.digital.archives.go.jp/img/1725555#1 [73 page]
Source (2) :
What I assume is that the devs quite literally failed to see that the quantity listed is in "Liters" and not in kilograms, This is especially confusing as Japanese documents tend to list weights in kg, except for the amount of fuel. Although, I assume this is kinda universal.
Even then, the FCR at take-off power is still wrong.
The current fuel consumption rate of 439kg/h is close to the value of "420" in the manual, though the latter is in Liters.
Affected vehicles are as follows.
A6M3, All A6M5 variants, A6M6, J1N1.
It took me a minute to consume 65 seconds' worth of fuel during WEP. My FCR was 8% higher. I assume the difference in horsepower is 11%. The decrease in FC/hp efficiency is 3.3% as it's strictly stated in the manual.
All of it comes down to me just saying this game is wrong about A6M3 - A6M6's fuel efficiency at all power settings.
WEP should consume 15.6% more fuel than normal, because of the "350/303" calculation I performed. It's literally a kindergarten level math so none of you all should have a problem with my thread. Otherwise, please leave without saying a thing.
Please note that it's this far away from the basic ass values in the manual, the widely available manual. It's not 3 or 5%. The error is visible just by looking at the 0.52 value. Not because it's A6M, but because it's wrong in case of any other planes if this was found. The 0.52 multiplier is just that crazy of a value for an engine. Like, 70%? seriously? Fiddling with the mixture control doesn't do a trick. So I'm not missing anything here. There you go.
If my grammar is lacking, it's because I'm out of slops.
最初から小文字、終わった...。ちなみにFMファイルのpowerの値とafterburnerboostを掛けて離昇が得れるよ。これにfuelconsumptionon~のスロットル区間毎の係数を掛けると毎時の燃料消費(kg)になる。Massの項にあるMaxfuelmassから割れば一時間%になるのでそのまま60掛けるだけでよくなる。これで最大出力時の燃料消費のゲーム内の計算はできる。例外はコンプレッサーの方の設定が低空で影響するから、地表の馬力がpower通りにならないとかだけど、珍しい。半分までスロットルさげるとプロペラピッチ下げる必要が出てくる。まあ知ってて得しないだろうけど。ちなみ今回の零戦のはテストフライトで実測した。ゲーム内数値はおかしかった。あとオクタン価92の燃料重量の0.72って低いね。0.735くらいがいいのかな。当時の考えられてた数値見つけ次第、実重量に再翻訳する事が好ましいけど。
開発の元へは通った。いつか修正されるかも。漢字の立の意味がリッター云々も追加したし伝わると思う。資料2つ目はネットの画像拾ってきて解決した。